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Sam Altman, CEO and co-founder of OpenAI, talked about Elon Musk's feud with him and his perspective on how regulations relate to him. artificial intelligence (AI) Development must be framed.
Altman appeared in an episode of Free Press “Honestly with Barry Weiss” podcast. That was published Thursday and was asked by Weiss why Musk has publicly criticized him over AI safety concerns and sued OpenAI to prevent it from forming a limited for-profit corporate structure after it was originally founded as a nonprofit. .
Musk was a co-founder of OpenAI but cut ties with the company in 2018 after he failed to convince its other leaders to put him in charge of a for-profit OpenAI entity or the company's merger with Tesla. Weiss noted that Musk likened Altman to Game of Thrones antagonist Littlefinger, and the xAI founder said he didn't trust Altman to lead the company that controls the world's most powerful artificial intelligence. .
“I think it's because he wants to be controlled by the most powerful AI in the world,” Altman says. “And I saw again Ilan attacks For a lot of other people, a lot of my friends – everyone puts their time in the spotlight. But all this seems like standard behavior from him.”
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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said he thinks Elon Musk's lawsuit is because he wants to control the world's most powerful artificial intelligence. (Fabrice Coffrini/AFP via Getty Images/Getty Images)
“I'm definitely sad about it. I was talking to someone I thought was close recently and they were like, 'Elon doesn't have any friends. Elon does not work with peers, he does not have Elon. Do friends. And it was a sad moment for me because I think of him as a friend.” Altman said.
“I can look at it somewhat dispassionately, like I remember when he said OpenAI has a 0% chance of success and you're an idiot and I'm going to get funding and do my own thing.” He continued.
I remember how there were moments after that when it felt like he wanted to reconcile and find a way to work together. And then I remember the moments when he was doing exactly that on Twitter. “If it was just directed at me, I think it would have hurt a lot more,” Altman says. But you know, I think you see who he is on Twitter, so I can keep it somewhat impersonal and just be like, this is about Elon, not about me. I guess I'll get used to it.”

Elon Musk, left, and Sam Altman were co-founders of OpenAI, though Musk later cut ties with the AI startup. (Michael Kovach/Getty Images for Vanity Fair/Getty Images)
Referring to OpenAI's recent blog post and the court filing to withdraw Musk's lawsuit against the company, Weiss asked Altman if he thought Musk was suing the company for competitive purposes to benefit his company, xAI, rather than out of concern. The facts about the safety of artificial intelligence or Creator of ChatGPT Corporate structure
Altman replied that he would have to ask Musk. He then explained that he thinks over-regulation of AI could have “huge negative consequences,” but noted that he, Musk and other major AI companies have supported regulation.
“Some regulation is clearly a good thing. I can imagine versions of that now Artificial intelligence regulations “It's really problematic and hurts smaller efforts, and I think that's a real mistake,” Altman explained. OpenAI and a handful of others. “I don't think we're at a level yet where these systems will have major safety implications, but I don't think we'll be very far, so that's where the art is.”

Elon Musk supported President-elect Trump's campaign and served as one of the leaders of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). (Brandon Bell/Getty Images/Getty Images)
Weiss asked Altman about arguments by some AI startups that OpenAI and other larger AI companies are seeking to create regulatory hurdles for smaller competitors to become competitors. He responded that the only regulations he wanted were for “new and untested” activities that bordered on the development of artificial intelligence.
Weiss followed up by referring to Marc Andersen's comments on his podcast and his take on the matter Biden administration It tried to control AI and regulate it, so there were only a few large companies working with the government and protected from competition.
“I don't think that's true, I don't know what he's referring to,” Altman said. “I'm also very, very clear, I think regulation that reduces competition for AI is a very bad thing.” Weiss asked if OpenAI and other AI companies are meeting with the Biden administration to discuss this type of regulatory arrangement.
I don't even think the Biden administration has enough authority to do this… I mean, we've been in a room with them and other companies and the government, but we've never been like, 'This is our conspiracy theory, we want just a few “A company that can build artificial intelligence will do it, and you should do what we say. Never,” Altman said.
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The founder of OpenAI went on to say that he thinks Gina Raimondo, Secretary of Commerce More than the Biden administration was in tune with the rise of artificial intelligence and the areas that should be prioritized.
He said: “I think Gina Raimondo was and is wonderful. Every conversation I've had with her, I think she's got it somehow. All in all, I'd say Management was not that effective.”
“The things that I think should be the priorities of the administration, and hopefully the priorities of the next administration, are building massive AI infrastructure in the United States, having a supply chain in the United States and things like that,” Altman explained.