Leah Feiger: And many people have been. Absolute.
Katie Drumond: So many people have been so, so my answer is, this will go through the court and it will overcome the legal system, and it will be slow and messy and painful, but that's it is What the legal system here to protect and here protect is our democracy and these tests and balances. This is the last type, right?
Leah Feiger: Absolute.
Katie Drumond: Courts are the final stance in terms of democracy and integrity of our constitution. What we are considering is the ability that we may not hold. What will it even start to look like it goes through? I know that you are not a legal expert in addition to being a Wired political editor, but what did you hear? What experts have told you in the process of your report?
Leah Feiger: There are many people who are saying, “Look, these organizations will go through. Musk and Trump will call them, and in the end this will end in the Supreme Court.” A lot of people are really comforting with this. They said, “Yes, the court may be in favor of the Republican ideology, but these are trained experts who will understand that these legal systems must be maintained and complied with. ” I am not confident in that.
Katie Drumond: Right.
Leah Feiger: I will be completely honest. Regarding what happens next, I think that, in a way, the slow march of these court systems, although the decisions, even temporary, went down very fast, There are many places to move quickly and break everything from Doge's side.
Katie Drumond: Yes.
Leah Feiger: Many of these eggs cannot be disturbed. Many of those who are fired and fired and confiscated are … It will be difficult to bring those people back once the last court can say, “No, no, no, what is This cannot be kept. ” And that is –
Katie Drumond: If they can say that in all.
Leah Feiger: If they can say that in all.
Katie Drumond: Right.
Leah Feiger: We are hearing that the concerns from experts on the board right now. We have never seen anything like this.
Katie Drumond: We certainly did not. Not here in the United States. ARE NOT.
Leah Feiger: Not here in the United States.
Katie Drumond: Yes, meanwhile, we held our breath. We continue to do the work, and we will continue to assign to all of you, wired listeners and wired readers, our reports, what we know as we know. That is our commitment to you. You can read all the reports that Leah and her group are working at Wired.com. Leah, thank you very much for taking the time to be here with me. I know how busy you are.
Leah Feiger: Thank you very much. I like to talk about taking over the government with you, Katie.
Katie Drumond: Well, now go to get a granola bar from my office.
Leah Feiger: Going to steal one immediately.
Katie Drumond: That is our program for today. We will return tomorrow with a episode from our regular round table, all about the status of dating applications, a little gentle access programming for all of you. If you like what you have heard today, make sure you follow Strange valley And evaluate it on your podcast application. If you want to contact any of us for questions, comments or displaying suggestions, please write to us at unnannyvalley@wired.com. Amar Lal at Macro Sound has mixed this episode, with technical support from Jake Lummus. Jordan Bell is our operating manufacturer. Condé Nast's global audio head is Chris Bannon, and I am Katie Drumond, Wired global editor. Thank you very much. Goodbye.